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Might be a bug then as that functionality sounds like it would work for us. What I have seen happening is the ODM operator pod runs the task /opt/ansible/roles/ICP4AODM/tasks/delete-objects.yml deleting the ODM pods I assume when that checksum is changed. Maybe it's deleting the pods for a different reason but whatever the case may be unless we are deleting the entire ODM or Cloud Pak deployment we can't have pods restarted in this way.
I was trying to find some evidence but it hasn't happened recently enough but I decided to test scaling down the ODM operator in a dev environment and noticed the ODM pods did still see a restart. I wasn't watching it and it happened after hours so it went unnoticed but I am hoping it was as you described here, the checksum changed so the rollout took place. The closest log I could find to the restart is
Sounds like a bug? If RollingUpdate implemented for ODM: https://github.ibm.com/dba/cert-kubernetes/blob/abf6feeb40fe48fc1913a567d59f0752ff388c9b/descriptors/patterns/ibm_cp4a_cr_production_FC_decisions.yaml#L310-L312 and with checksum on the trusted certificate, if the checksum changes to the Deployment, Kubernetes (or OCP) would redeploy the ODM pods abiding to the RollingUpdate strategy.
I don't know how ODM operator is implemented, but here is how RollingUpdate strategy is defined in the Content operator for one of the FNCM components (e.g., CPE): https://github.ibm.com/dba/ibm-content-operator/blob/f1403d71250da2e27f8292cac898bd1be5060407/roles/FNCM/templates/cpe/ecm-cpe-deployment.yaml#L31-L35
And if the checksum of the trusted certificate list changes: https://github.ibm.com/dba/ibm-content-operator/blob/f1403d71250da2e27f8292cac898bd1be5060407/roles/FNCM/templates/cpe/ecm-cpe-deployment.yaml#L76-L78, then it will change the Deployment, which OCP/Kubernetes will recreate the pods following the RollingUpdate strategy defined in the Deployment
@VINCENT Le @TODD DEEN - could you please look into the above fact mentioned by @ALAIN Robert regarding rolling update behavior.
ODM implemented rolling updates - https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/cloud-paks/cp-biz-automation/25.0.1?topic=administering-applying-rolling-update-strategy